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READ THIS PSA: Using VPN Services

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by Turqmelon, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. Turqmelon

    Turqmelon Developer
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    Hey, all!

    We've made some changes to our punishment plugin last week that has caused a spike in bans on users for Ban Evading. I wanted to take a moment to address why this is the case.

    What's a VPN?
    "A VPN or Virtual Private Network is a method used to add security and privacy to private and public networks, like WiFi Hotspots and the Internet. VPNs are most often used by corporations to protect sensitive data."

    VPNs are great for privacy and safety but have some caveats when using them on our server.

    Why is it a problem?
    On Savage Games, we use a mixture of information to determine if different accounts are associated with each other. We do this for the safety of our community and to make our staff team aware of people trying to bypass bans. This info comes from the browser you use when you use our website, your ISP, your general location, and a few other factors. When you use a VPN, you take several of these factors out of the equation, which is great from a privacy standpoint, but also not so good when you remember that multiple people could be using the same VPN as you.

    When we ban a player from the server, we keep track of the information they've used to play on our network and use our forums. Let's assume for one of these times, they were using a VPN. The same one as you.

    When you next join the server, using that VPN, we associate you with them because you're using the same IP and company they were, thus flagging your account as associated with a banned user.

    Can't I appeal? Why do you ban for that?
    For the safety of our community, we ban users who evade using VPNs as it's such a common way to bypass bans across the internet. If we look at your history and see a VPN-company owned IP address, then see bans associated with other accounts who used it, we have to make the assumption that your account is being used to bypass said ban.

    How do I avoid it?
    While VPNs are great for many purposes across the internet, we recommend disabling it temporarily or whitelisting our server while playing to avoid false associations. If you don't use a VPN while playing on Savage Games, that's fine, you'll never be affected.

    Again, Savage Games does not ban the use of VPNs, we simply discourage it for the reasons above. By choosing to use a VPN on our network, you assume the risk that you could be associated with a banned user, and end up with a suspended account.

    Thanks,
    Devon
     
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  2. LIONEYE

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    Thanks for clearing this up Devon, I appreciate it and hope it helps to prevent evasion via VPNs in the future :)
     
  3. Topazcat97

    Topazcat97 New Islander
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    Problem is, some of us have to use a VPN to get around the collage WiFi block on Minecraft as well as other games or else we can't play anything
     
  4. Zothuro

    Zothuro Moderator
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    Why play on a college campass? You should be studying :P
     
  5. A Random Guy

    A Random Guy Warzone Expert
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    I have a question: I am the only one on my network playing skybounds so am I then completely safe with using a vpn?
     
  6. Zothuro

    Zothuro Moderator
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    A VPN uses the same ip no matter who uses it. So just to be safe, don't use it.
     
  7. Topazcat97

    Topazcat97 New Islander
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    In my dorm room, I gotta have something to do to relax after a hard day of class
     
  8. A Random Guy

    A Random Guy Warzone Expert
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  9. KNQuaKe

    KNQuaKe Tree Puncher

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    I have been banned for ban evading. My appeal was accepted and I was supposed to be unbanned a long time ago and SavAgeLuke even said he unbanned me... whenever I try to Join skybounds it says lost connection whilst connection to hub: communication error. Could someone please help me I have a sled a couple staff but nothing seems to be happening.

    Thanks in advanced!
     
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  10. Flyrhino1

    Flyrhino1 Tree Puncher

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    I was banned for ban evading and I'm not an alt and don't use vpn but my cousin use their account at my house some times and i might have been mistaken for an alt and i was banned for ban evading could a mod or admin help me because i wan tot get unbanned because i used to play this server everyday till i got banned
     
  11. Gavote

    Gavote Administrator
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    @Flyrhino1 You would need to create an appeal
     
  12. Flyrhino1

    Flyrhino1 Tree Puncher

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    I already did
     
  13. Flyrhino1

    Flyrhino1 Tree Puncher

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    thx for looking out
     
  14. Sushieeee

    Sushieeee Administrator
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    Thank you for clearing this up, It is very important all users read this along with any other info needed.
    Much appreciated.
     
  15. Flyrhino1

    Flyrhino1 Tree Puncher

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    Yes I read it and thanks for helping
     
  16. Fabelz

    Fabelz Moderator
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    Perfect, as I've gotten like 10x the amount of punishments that I normally do, recently, due to the changes, and this will be perfect to attach in appeals xD
     
  17. kalwarden2005

    kalwarden2005 Tree Planter

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    Idk how to set up a VPN to begin with :P
     
  18. Do_or_dieXD

    Do_or_dieXD Tree Planter
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    Do siblings get banned for using the same ip as a banned player/is it possible to prove u are different people? Just curious, ty
     
  19. meep1304

    meep1304 Tree Puncher
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    I dont think so because About 5 months ago i WAS abnned and my brother still played but now that im unabnned I can play with him so no, You shouldent. But Then again its safe t not get banned in the first place lol
     
  20. TheRealNick

    TheRealNick New Islander
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    lol yeah you should.. get off minecraft and get to work, unless your a successful youtuber:D
     

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