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Bring back Beta???

Discussion in 'Skybounds Discussion' started by Patrick2233, Dec 29, 2018.

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  1. Patrick2233

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    Yeah it’s definitely the eternal enchants. They literally broke pvp. Like I’ve said before if someone had eternal evasion on every piece of their gear and have freeze X on all pieces it’s almost impossible to fight someone that has that. So yes eternal evasion is a big problem but another problem is eternal evasion mixed with freeze X. Cause if the player is constantly evading your hits and u have stun/slowness the whole fight it’s IMPOSSIBLE to fight. But basic freeze and basic evasion enchants are fine. It’s just the eternal enchants
     
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    Another major thing I don’t understand is why they are releasing more and more ikits when there are more bugs that I can count that still need fixed. And obviously pvp is a big thing that needs attention. So in my opinion I think pvp and bugs need more attention not releasing new things
     
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    LOL i think they need to fix the redstone dead spot bug, been around longer than UUU xD
    they also need to fix some of their staff *cough cough* ur not one of em, ur ok
     
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    I never played beta
     
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    god apple fights aren't skilled based either considering the fact that they last so long and its just who's armor breaks first, reg gold apples should heal you over 10 but gods shouldn't but yeah i agree with pvp fights now with double strike and backstab procs atm are kinda outrages. Beta pvp system was better.
     
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    We are always looking into bugs, I do however appreciate this post and being able to connect with y’all and see what you would like to change about the pvp, as I’ve said before I’m not much one for pvp so it helps me to see what people who are passionate about pvp think.
     
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    No. And PvP is better now, than it ever was in beta,
     
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    How is pvp better now? Someone one hit me cuz he is lucky and doublestrike and backstab proc at the same time isn't better in my opinion.
    An own server to test it would be kinda cool in my opinion ^^. If there are enough players why not higher the amounts of servers after a amount of time if not it could still be cancled ^^
     
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    Lightraider is just a meanie pfft.
    But yeah I haven't really played recently so don't know what the whole eternal enchant thing is about and what's wrong with it.|
    Also, I just got a trophy for the 2-year club. Yeet.
     
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    I respect your opinion but you can’t say pvp is better now. Idk how big of a pvper you are but try going on in a yang set and fighting someone in full god with eternal enchants on all pieces . Unless your skilled at pvp it’s impossible. I won’t say I’m a god at pvp but I would say I’m decent and I still can’t do much fighting against that.
     
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    Okay. Here we go boiiis.
    SO, since i joined the server I have been a seriously heavy pvp player, i dont do huge amounts of the challenges and i pretty much live in the warzone. I can quite easily say that pvp is the best it has ever been for a multitude of reasons which i will go on to describe, however, first lets address yours: Now you are complaining about yang not being able to take on a god set like this is a new issue yet there has never been a point in the servers history when you could use a basic ikit to take on a decent pvper in full god gear, just because of the sheer disparity between the amount of enchants and the power on them ( the only small breaks to this were space and FW3... Both of which were so broken they shouldnt have ever existed in the world of pvp anyway.)
    Now lets get into why pvp is better, lots of these dont need much expansion so i wont bother giving it. Here we go:
    No more KO's, this is great, they shouldnt ever have existed they were a disgustingly cheap kill weapon that served no purpose except to kill peoples fun.
    No more FW3, Space or other stupidly OP Ikits, Again the ikits were getting too OP and were just unbalanced, the new server pvp has removed that unbalance and has made pvp fun again.
    By lowering the enchants fights actually are more enjoyable and more often... SEE AN END! This is a huge change from previous pvp stages where fights would last forever and no one would die or lose gear... if you dont want to die or risk your gear, dont pvp. dont enter the warzone. You enter the warzone? Be prepared to die and lose stuff. The warzone should always be High risk... High reward (the reward part needs working on in my opinion)
    Soulstones? Do i even need to mention these. By nerfing soul stones fights are actually worth it. No more everyone having 5 million soul binds and gear never being lost. That was Dumb A F
    And people are complaining about instant kills from 10 hearts? Well. I havent ever seen that happen and i live in the warzone, sounds like you just got unlucky mate. Alternatively use the great enchant Saviour that was put in to counter the insta kills, and vwala you survive the insta kill and can try and get away or fight.
    Now what else have I seen complaints about? Oh yeah, The loss of all the super high enchants like 5/6 of things, that was just stupid and unnecessary and on top of that with the OP gear towards the end of beta it was pretty much impossible to kill anyone before they could escape which was also stupid

    If you have any legitmate reasons why pvp in better in beta, i would love to hear them, as i really cant think of any, and I have been pvping constantly the whole time through since i started playing, (At release)
    The only thing that needs to be changed really is more variety in drops in the warzone so we have some of the old interesting drops like the OathBreaker and Cutlass and such, or maybe add some axe exclusive enchants so that axes could be used as an alternative weapon to a sword. And no. I dont mean just bring back shuffle and bury, because while shuffle was okay, bury was stupid. And with how glitchy eating already is on the server, I dont think we need shuffle to make it even worse.

    Peace
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    Like I said I respect your opinion . That’s why I made this post to see what people felt. But as u said stated above, u said it was never possible to use an ikit to take on a skilled pvper in god gear. But I strongly disagree because like you I been pvping on skybounds since the day the server released and that’s all I do ok skybounds. I don’t grind at all except alil. But back to what I was saying I disagree with what u said and here’s why...I remember I would ALWAYS go out in the warzone in basic ikit or trash gear u got from warzone in beta like wretched armour and crap and would fight god people and win the fights. It definitely was possible to survive in ikit against god gear in beta. Now it’s almost impossible especially for new inexperienced players . Hell, even when frost walker and space was out I was still able to kill someone in ikit. I specifically remember killing someone in full space god and I was in ikit reindeer. Now with all these eternal enchants it’s almost impossible. I’m gonna upload a fight between me in ikit and someone else in god gear and u will see how much they will evade my hits. It’s basically impossible to even get a hit off on them if they have eternal evasion on every piece
     
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    I can and will admit there were some things back in Beta that I loved, but at the same time, we advanced from Beta for a reason. As with any game/server, Beta is meant to be a time to test and figure out what works best. It is also meant as a chance to improve on features that may not be working correctly at the time. With how much Skybounds is changing, I see no need to return to Beta. Think of it as going back from 2019, to 1919. It would not make sense nor be better. We, of course, welcome any and all suggestions to improve upon the server. If you have an idea for improving how PvP is now, suggest it. Give us detail, paint us your vision, we would love to see it :smile:
     
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    I’m not necessarily saying totally get rid of the skybounds now and bring back beta like that. I’m mainly trying to explain how bad the pvp is at the time. The pvp now is just straight up bad in my opinion. I love the server and most of the stuff about it but pvp is something that needs changed. And the video I posted goes without saying. When ur at a full row of hearts someone backstabs and double strikes you, you should not get 1 tapped. That’s just down right dumb. That and eternal enchants need removed completely. I don’t even understand why eternal enchants were added. They weren’t needed at all nor were set bonuses. Standard ikit pvp was fine before. And I also want the old disenchanting back. But I want 2 staff members to wear a full godset with eternal evasion and fight and actually see what it’s like because I know damn well atleast 80% of the staff(that say pvp now is fine) don’t even pvp and never have.
     
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    Pvp is fine lol. Fights finish now. That is actual pvp. The endless fights of the past, that isnt pvp lol. You keep complaining about this 1 hit, you are the only person I have heard or seen it happen to, sounds like bad luck for you xD if it isnt common then just accept it lel, a death is a death, Someone got a lucky proc, good job them. Eternal enchants are fine, its just the same as when god people used to fight before, its a spam of evades and freezes and counters e.t.c the best enchants always spam lol, Disenchanting in the past made everything too easy, glad they got rid of it.
    Overall it sounds like you are just mad you died to a lucky hit, and you dont want to die so you want the easy no skill everyone survives all the time pvp back lel. If you dont wanna die? dont enter the warzone?
    And if you managed to kill a guy in god gear in beta when you were in ikit, the simple fact is, he sucked lel, not that it was possible or common xD
    And saying its impossible for new people lel? Did you see beta, new people stood Nooooooo chance there, New people are always at a disadvantage due to progression. Although i would say they stand more of a chance now with royal than they ever did back with wretched, they just need to add more loot like that to the warzone.

    However, I would like to add that both Myself, xHiruzen and PoxrJonas can all kill or almost kill gods in Yin/Yang currently :)
     
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    PvP isn't fine lol I made a bug report about the issue backstab and doublestrike proc to the same time like 2 months ago...
    pvp now is based on lucky mainly also the way to grind your gsets is kinda stupid too....
    grind a enchantress for like 2h to get ur gset done isn't really fun is it? so alot of players prefer using an autoclicker and grind afk ^^
    In beta u needed to be active to grind ur enchants go into the wz cuz even farming openables only wouldn't really get u that far ^^.
    Grinders are fine if u need to be active skybounds reached the peak of an afk server nearly noone is going into the warzone.
    and your probably right about the problem you didn't get many kills but wasn't it kinda better to actually kill someone when not everything
    is based on luck or bugs? A kill where the person wouldn't be as mad and the player is prob even happier too ^^.
    And u were talking about KO's...
    U can compare the chats now and the chat where KO's been a thing and someone got killed by a KO ^^.
    Noone was that angry about the KO's but people get mad about bugs....
    Also in beta u were able to drop someone in god even if he was a good player ^^ but you can't now I don't think u can take out someone in prot 4 god who is actually only decent in pvp not even talking about good ( even tho u don't need to be good for skybounds rn ^^).
    To make the pvp more fun some stuff should be changed and thats my idea:
    -Remove the enchantress and the ogre grinder ^^
    -You should heal up to 40 hp again when you get regen ( but the enchanted gold apple cd should be the same tho)
    -Soulbinds shouldn't save your armor from getting broke but /fix should be a thing in wz again.
    -More weapons and armor like the cutlass or wretched armor ect
    -No setbonuses ( the setsbonuses were a cool thing but not for pvp in my opinion. Also why should a kit have such a strong abilty?)
    -Lower the spell couldown
    -Add different abiltys on axes and shovels too prob ^^
    - Add the ebow and the gravity gun into the game again.
    - Add Immortal enchantment books into the skydrop again this should be a great way to get your godset done tho
    - Remove immortal boosters ( your prob asking why right? In my opinion ikit armor lost his worth too and a unlock neither without immortal boosters noone would have so many kits and even ikit armor would be worth alot again so pvp would get you some money ^^)
    - Add something like a warzone magnet idk ^^
    -If a player pearls on a block above him he shouldn't be pearled up...
    Why I think this would be a good thing to add?
    Skybounds has lost his playerbase and minecraft lost it anyways...
    But if some stuff would change some old players would prob start playing again.
    I don't think focus on the new players is good cuz many of them will quit anyways but old players
    still have memories of the good time beta was alot of fun for almost everyone and keeping that system will make more people quit which is kinda stupid because skybounds had such a great start when the reset was announced prob even 800 players but most of them disagreed with the system rn. and the less amount left is mainly pve players and and people who afk. The wz is literally dead and many teams are about to quit too. The pvp playerbase died completly and without pvp players pve players will stop playing too.
     
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    Again, that is your opinion. Regardless of what anyone says the pvp is broken. Period. Idk how the hell you or someone can say eternal enchants aren’t broken lol cause if someone has eternal evasion on every single piece of their gear your chat gets FLOODED with “so and so evaded”. Idk how someone can say that’s fair. Basically if both people fighting don’t BOTH have god gear the fights aren’t even. Sure yeah it’s “possible” to pop someone whilst in yang and ur enemy in god but it’s annoying af and it’s just down right boring. Sure I’ll admit when beta was out and people had 20 soulstones on gear it was broken but the pvp now where fights last 30 seconds is just plain out dumb. It’s so freakin easy to make god gear now it’s not even funny. Op enchant crates come in okits and so does prot 3 and un breaking books . So u can basically make a god set with just ONE okit claim. Especially considering u don’t have to disenchant Jack crap. All okit gear comes with atleast 6 open enchant spots and all u gotta do is slap enchants on it and boom u have a god set. But all In all that’s just our separate opinions. I’m glad I can see other people’s thoughts on this but haven’t u ever wondered why half the player base quit? It’s because of th pvp. Just an FYI
     
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    Agree with you 100%.
     
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    I play skybounds since over 2 years now and Bringing Back beta would be pretty good for skybounds, and the player count because I'm pretty sure many players would come back to play beta because it was the best time skybounds ever had.
     
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    Love some of the old things arenas etc but beta had a lot of bugs glad its out full version but yes quite a bit of beta was good
     
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    Yeah, I think backstab is kind of broken. I have backstabbed things from the front multiple times
    edit: most of the time that was on my island, but I have also backstabbed people from the side in the warzone
     
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    They better bring back beta
     
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    Even though beta was highly liked by players it had a lot of bugs and overall a lot of issues. I can’t see why the developers would want to undo their good work. -1
     
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    I just want soul stones to work like before since enchants like prot 4 unb 4 are pretty rare.
     

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