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Fix the server

Discussion in 'Community Help' started by Black, Aug 18, 2019.

  1. Black

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    How to fix the server:
    - Ban players who use blantant autoclickers , velocity modifiers or criticals( that's something a staff member should know)
    - Ban evasion shouldn't be allowed in general ( for reasons like cheating duping and doxing in general)
    - Being banned for once a 2 month ban should be fine for cheating but if he cheats for a second time that should be permanent
    - Players who are teaming with blantant cheaters should be banned as well ( there are literally teams who profit cuz their teammates cheat like wtf?
    - Players who cheat will get a backup since the day they did cheat or just reset the player in general ( not only a ban)
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    That's my opinion you can have a different but don't be toxic ty.
     
  2. Lightraider

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    Most of the staff do not know what to look for when it comes to hacks and hackers, which is a large part of the reason so many of them are still around on the server. This plague ranges from the top to the bottom of the staff team.
    A ban for hacking shouldnt be temporary. A hacking ban should be permenant, everyone knows it isnt allowed. You choose to do it. Face the punishment.
    There isnt a way for every player to know if every other player hacks, so cant agree to this, sorry.
    Implementing away to reset everything a cheater has done before being punished could be difficult, not sure there is much to say on that one, would have to ask the devs, doubt it will be put in though.
     
  3. Black

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    That's stuff I wish for skybounds 2.0 btw
    I'm not talking abt invis cheaters when I said players who team with cheaters should be dealt with the same....
    I'm talking about players who should definitly know the player cheats ( blantant cheats or admits to know the player is indeed cheating)
    and yes the staff should know if someone cheats or not if they don't then they should just add smthing like pve or pvp staff? idk but the staff in general hasn't really that much expierence with cheaters
     
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  4. Black

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    also for the reset of the player's stuff ect there should be way more evidence then on a ban but if it's 100% sure he wasn't legit at any time that should be a punishment because u could just cheat and gain stuff ( it's kinda of a extra punishment added to the ban) 100% sure would be for me opening something like a gui blantant headsnaps or little to no knockback , abuse of the fly anticheat bug ( getting kicked for flying because u activate fly in the void). I'm not saying the staff should be like practice server staff but there should be a extra staff ( punishment history isn't important) who checks if the player did indeed cheat or not ( punishments aren't important cuz a cheater sometimes knows it better then players who were legit all the time). I doubt most of the staff even knows how a external autoclicker looks like outside the game and thats why the server needs players who check evidence and actually know theese kind of things
     
  5. Black

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    also a client-side anticheat or atleast a cooperation with server-side anticheats which exist would be cool because this would prevent cheaters to cheat and also prevent false bans to accure at the same time ( lunar has almost no false bans and cheatbreaker did help alot too)
    A server-side anticheat has many ways to bypass while a client-side has only problems with external clients or external autoclickers.
    There is almost no reason to not use a client-side anticheat and it would almost only bring benefits to the server , yes some people may not like it but that's probably the only way to prevent cheaters from cheating ( server-side anticheats can be easily bypassed )
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    Overall thoose are the things I wish to be changed on skybounds 2.0!
    There should be some pvp changes too but the anticheat/ cheating problem should be the main focus on changing skybounds.
     
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    When someone is cheating you can always report them and point out how they are cheating to staff members - if you have a problem with how a staff member deals with a situation then you can report them in the same way you would report a player (via this link http://www.savage.games/report/) or simply DM an Admin on Discord. Banning for things like Velocity and Criticals are tough because they can be hard to notice unless very blatant but again if you report players for these reasons we will review the situation and decide whether enough of the cheat is present in order to take action. Banning for teaming with cheaters would not be a good idea in my opinion since there is not always a way for the person to know if the other is cheating straight away - lots of the time it is very difficult to tell if someone is definitely cheating in 1st person mode whilst following them around on their team. Thanks for suggesting these changes though, they will be considered amongst the staff team - we are always looking for ways to improve!
     
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  7. ljcraft

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    Wow, this was a lot of text he-he. Well, staffing is voluntarily, which means everyone are at different levels at spotting hackers. Also - even if a player isn't banned the second you are fighting them, doesn't mean that they are not banned some time after. Some things need time for other to review etc.

    The ban evasion thing has been pretty confusing for everyone, as very many people have been commenting different statements on it. Not to go in detail, but ban evasion can get you banned which is the reason you are advised to not do it.

    - the whole teaming situation may be frustrating, but can be hard to detect and might result in some unfair/wrongfully bans.

    With the new server being worked on, they might make an anti-cheat which would make it easier. For now, you should just report it in and be patient with the staff team < 3
     
  8. Black

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    I'm not speaking about players not getting banned after days , I'm speaking about MONTHS or YEARS of cheating and still not getting banned.
    Players who are blantant with a free autoclicker cheating for months isn't good , the server won't probably fix stuff like paid external autoclickers but I'd atleast want to not worry about bad autoclickers ( thoose are even worse cause they don't even try to not get you banned so they just constantly click 16-17 cps).
    A server-side anticheat would probably be kinda useless if it's not atleast as good as AGC so a client-side would make much more sense and yes AGC has false bans but they are so minor it doesn't really matter.
     
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    Well, I've never been a hacker expert, but it can't be that blatant if none of the staff members see it. They need to be quite sure before banning, so no false ban happens.
     
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    Some of the things I must agree with here like teaming with hackers, It is profiting because players can hack and make teams so they can profit on hacks. But as you guys said Staff try their hardest to find hackers but sometimes as humans do, we mess up.
     
  11. Black

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    I mean a /freeze command and a screenshare would help! that's a way to proof you are legit ( you can just hide private info and stuff and don't give the staff permisson to control your computer.) , this would not only decrease false bans but also prevent players from cheating!
    so if they are sketchy just /froze and ask them for a screenshare
     
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    This seems like a lot of hard work and effort and difficulty for both lauren (the community manager), the admins and staff in general as well as devs- this is a very far fetched idea that would cost everyone a lot of time and effort which then would cause further issues and to be honest I really do not see this happening
     
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    that's why I would prefer a screenshare ^^ , it doesn't have to be staff get's full access to ur computer but screenshares would provide false bans but also ban players who just were a bit fishy!
     
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    unfortunately though, some people will refuse to as its a violation of their human rights protection act and can also be a hassle to go about screen-sharing anyway sorry
     
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    I agree with aboth it will be a lot of work and hassle to screenshare not only its breaking human rights that are installed for protection by the act. Also i would like to add i have worked before with commands like /freeze and they are not always the best idear as they are sometimes really buggy. Also its a lot of codding to get right and install within the server which can cause problems so im currently not liking this idear
    ✖️ For me
     

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