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Discussion in 'Suggestions / Concerns' started by Sirsteakface, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. Sirsteakface

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    Please describe the suggestion:
    Even though I haven't played in a while, I do know not many people like to PVP. I feel like the reason is because there isn't any reason to go to the warzone, and gear is much harder to obtain. While Skybounds is still enjoyable, I think there should be a better balance to the PvP system. Here is a list of things I believe should be reintroduced or added.

    PVP Ideas:
    · Add Protection V and Sharpness V back
    · Add shuffle back: Maybe nerf it so only your hotbar gets effected
    · Remove not being able to regenerate above 10 hearts; it really makes tank pointless
    · Buff god apples to give more saturation hearts
    · Ender pearl cooldown reduced to 10 seconds; 15 is a little bit excessive, especially when you aren't in combat and just miss a pearl on accident.
    · ADD BUNNY BOOST; I miss it D;
    · Add DECENT armor to skydrops; Like back in the day, magician armor, sparkle armor, etc, it really needs to be added, it isn't fair to players who have no rank or aren't able to buy kits, this would give everyone a fighting chance and possibly revive the warzone. It doesn't even have to be insane, just like protection 3 and evasion 7 and other stuff like that. (Same thing for weapons)

    PvE Ideas:

    Other Ideas:
    · Make sets have a passive set bonus, PvP set bonuses really make PvP a lot less enjoyable because it can give advantages in a fight, having to use skill/techniques makes PvP a lot more fun.
    · Buff openables; They aren't worth it anymore. (also add the old way of opening them, where you could see what was coming up)

    Leave ideas in the comments, I will update this and give credit :D

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    As I don’t pvp much, I do have ideas though. I think Sharp V and Protection V should stay out of the game, just because it will lead up to the “op” stuff. Other then that I like the idea!
     
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    I think that tank is too op at the moment so the cap of regening above 10 hearts is a bad idea. We want enchants to be good and not required. I also agree with adding good armour to skydrop lile in beta, it also just gives people who want to collect another thing which is nice.

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  4. Sirsteakface

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    Although tank is pretty op, only being able to regen 10 hearts with no flash heals is an issue, because everyone likes to use strength so it would be the only chance at living, since prot 4 is highest protection, which is also why i suggested prot 5 :P
     
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    Okay, first I'd like to say, YES! BRING BACK BUNNY BOOST! I miss it too. Second, in my opinion removing Protection V and Sharpness V was a good idea. This made weapons and armor too powerful and further broke Skybound's PVP.
    As for tank, I also think tank should be nerfed. It seem's to be very advantageous, and a little unfair.
    The more variety of random armor sets found in the Warzone is a good idea, I agree with that. Back in the day when there were random armor sets able to be found was the best state Skybound's PVP has been in. That is because everyone at least had some sort of fighting chance due to the naturally generated armor sets.
    As for armor set bonuses, as long as there's no more Frost Walker III set bonuses, I honestly don't mind them. But when "Constant slowness in a 10 block radius, and freeze your opponents by shifting" that is where PVP crumbled.

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    Ok I agree with a few points, and disagree on others.

    -Bunny Boost is added in the form of Anti Gravity, however I did love the Bunny Set ;(
    -Protection 5 and Sharpness 5 broke PvP in my opinion, so this should stay removed.
    -To me god apples are fine the way they are, they aren't to OP, but aren't trash.
    -The 10 heart regen limit for notch apples is fine in my opinion. You can just use a heal spell with candy and be at max hearts.
    -Tank isn't all that OP and is easily obtained for all. Enchant crates give tank frequently, and enchant crates are easily obtainable.

    -Enderpearl cooldown should be 10 seconds, but if the Ender Bow is added back, it should be 15 seconds.
    -I love the idea about adding warzone armor sets. These were used for messing around in warzone, and were collection items for most people.

    -I would like to see Shuffle added back if it was made to only effect hotbars.
    -Openables do need some sort of buff, it's ok for the newer players, but once you get some good stuff, they are worth more to sell than to open in my opinion.

    *=*Other Ideas*=*
    -I'd love to see openable armor sets again. They are more collectable items and give insentive to open openables. (I'd like to see an armor set for every openable. Ancient Rune, Legendary Relic, Immortal Stone, Farming Rune, Mystic Timber, etc.) These can have set bonuses, but if they do I think they should have island set bonuses as they are obtained from island grinding.
     
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  7. Sirsteakface

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    Even if you did flash heal, thats only 4 hearts, and those go down in like 2 hits, that's why I want the regen limit removed. And maybe only add back protection 5 and not sharpness 5?
     
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    I still think the prot would be to OP.
    The limit is fine in my opinion. If a kit player is fighting a god set, the limit stops the god set from getting at max hearts, so the limit kinda makes fights with unbalanced gear, semi balanced.
     
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    I don't pvp all that much but some of the things I do see you listed was old enchants and levels. Alot of those were things making the server a bit overpowered, making pvp near to impossible or the fight to never end. The thing about bunny boost, there is Anti-gravity now which is similar to that. The moon boots have anti- gravity on them.
     
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    Yeah I think that some of the things that u want added back wouls be cool to see back in like more PvE set bonuses and bring back wz sets however most of the other things mentioned above were removed for a reason and probably won’t be added back.
     
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    As someone who has always PVP'd... A LOT Here are my re-evaluations of the parts of your idea:

    PVP Ideas:
    · Add Protection V and Sharpness V back - No chance. The pvp now is better than it ever was with Prot 5 and Sharp 5, this should most definitely never make a return, ever again.
    · Add shuffle back: Maybe nerf it so only your hotbar gets effected. - Possibly, this wouldnt be too bad, although with how glitchy gapples already are and thats just eating them, standing still or in a fight, having something that purposefully screws with your hotbar and stuff, is only gonna cause further problems. If gapples were less glitchy, this would be okay
    · Remove not being able to regenerate above 10 hearts; it really makes tank pointless - This I do agree with, being able to only regen to 10 renders multiple things pointless especially the Titan set which gives you 30 hearts, what use is 30 hearts... if you can only ever keep 10 of them.
    · Buff god apples to give more saturation hearts - No need for this, totally pointless.
    · Ender pearl cooldown reduced to 10 seconds; 15 is a little bit excessive, especially when you aren't in combat and just miss a pearl on accident. - No. Escaping and running is already easy enough, no need to make it even easier.
    · ADD BUNNY BOOST; I miss it D; - Add it.... It is already there... Its just called Anti Gravity now... Not bunny boost. Still Exists... Thus Irrelevant
    · Add DECENT armor to skydrops; Like back in the day, magician armor, sparkle armor, etc, it really needs to be added, it isn't fair to players who have no rank or aren't able to buy kits, this would give everyone a fighting chance and possibly revive the warzone. It doesn't even have to be insane, just like protection 3 and evasion 7 and other stuff like that. (Same thing for weapons) - Dont add "Decent" Armour, just add special warzone loot drops again, like back in beta there was the Cutlass, Oathbreaker, Sparkle, Captains boots e.t.c Adding that sort of gear back, where its okay, but nothing totally amazing, would definitley help some of the starts out in getting some gear to at least start out in the warzone in, and just add more gear related loot to warzone in general.

    PvE Ideas:

    Other Ideas:
    · Make sets have a passive set bonus, PvP set bonuses really make PvP a lot less enjoyable because it can give advantages in a fight, having to use skill/techniques makes PvP a lot more fun. - No. Sets are fine, the whole point is sets give bonuses removing this makes it pointless. What they could do however is give each set a counter set so that it becomes a bit more of a information, and then gear and skill fight. I.E. Beast when it comes out (THIS IS MADE UP AND JUST AN EXAMPLE) Say has perma strength 1... Make a Beast Hunter set, which makes the person fighting you not be able to use Strength (JUST AN EXAMPLE, But im sure you can get the idea) That way you can try and counter armour e.t.c
    · Buff openables; They aren't worth it anymore. (also add the old way of opening them, where you could see what was coming up) - Personally dont have an issue with them, you can still get some pretty neat stuff and the new opening way is much faster and thus much preffered when im opening a lot of them lol.

    If you want to discuss anything further, just reply to the comment and Im happy to give more info to anything i said :)

    Thanks
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    The bunny boost thing, anti gravity is a thing, but I'm not sure but i think they can only go on boots, and bunny boost gave you more of a boost, but I haven't used Anti gravity yet so this is just a guess kinda, and the openables, you can get some good stuff sometimes, but most of it is useless the more you progress.
     
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    It's all fair, even if the godset have a chance to regen above 10 it's not an advantage, because if the other person has tank, then they too can regen above 10 hearts, and not being able to regen above 10 makes it even worse for the person not in a gset, because then they can't get any higher than 10 hearts, and they basically drop instantly, I think the reason they added the regen limit is because people would jump in the void and keep eating golden apples, which made the fight last for years.
     
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    You just listed things that made last reset horrible
     
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    A lot of this stuff was a thing but got removed for good reasons.
     
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    -Sharp 5 and Prot 5 is a bad idea cause they're too op. The current etternal enchants make PVP fine from the enchants side of things.
    -Don't really have an opinion on shuffle
    -Regenning your full health makes tank and titan way too OP imo
    -God apples are fine as they are rn imo
    -Don't really see a need to reduce pearl cooldown. Just use a wz rocket.
    -Anti-gravity is pretty similar to bunny boost.
    -More special armour to find in the warzone is fine to add imo as long as they're not too overpowered.
    -Buffing openables is a good idea too. Several immortal stars I've used have given me loot worse than normal storm gen loot.

    PVP is better than it used to be though. Especially since they added Prot 3 Unb 3 and Sharp 3 books in okits. It isn't that difficult to make sets anymore.
     
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    Small thought on my mind here but, I feel like sets n stuff can be lost way too easily for the effort put in to getting them in the first place. Like, imagine you finally finish your first god set and go into warzone only to lost 2 of the pieces lol... thats a yikes. I can get that its a gamble but I just feel like thats something to think about because I can see a lot of people not pvping due to how easily they can lose their work in such short notice.
     

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